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Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 16-06-2023 11:07

[BFTF]

In the article posted today (here: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110716) we have gone through the new clash feature and provided some dates regarding the beta. Please read through that article if you haven’t already. We are aware that this might seem like a daunting new feature, so we encourage you to ask questions here if things are unclear. Note that we have intentionally left out information regarding the new federation league table and ranking, to avoid dropping too much information at once. In this thread, we would ideally like to discuss the following things: - How to set your federation first team up to play clashes - How to play clashes - And questions regarding the Beta which will be launched next week (at which point we will also provide more detailed information regarding the beta) Also be aware that we might not be able to answer questions during evenings and weekends, but we will do our best to answer all your questions as quickly as we can.In the article posted today (here: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110716) we have gone through the new clash feature and provided some dates regarding the beta. Please read through that article if you haven’t already.

We are aware that this might seem like a daunting new feature, so we encourage you to ask questions here if things are unclear. Note that we have intentionally left out information regarding the new federation league table and ranking, to avoid dropping too much information at once. In this thread, we would ideally like to discuss the following things:

- How to set your federation first team up to play clashes
- How to play clashes
- And questions regarding the Beta which will be launched next week (at which point we will also provide more detailed information regarding the beta)

Also be aware that we might not be able to answer questions during evenings and weekends, but we will do our best to answer all your questions as quickly as we can.

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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By masterkike - 06-10-2023 09:14

[FCMZ]

@powdersnow do you can explain this. Thanks!

the_woodies_1706 wrote:

Hello guys,

Quick question about the extra TC spot.

Do you need to be selected for 6 clashes or do you need to attack in 6 clashes. In the first seasons federations with 8 members or other less than 16 will occur, which means some of the member will not be able to attack in a certain clash.

@powdersnow do you can explain this. Thanks!

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By scrum - 06-10-2023 21:00

[FRF]

I see now 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a loss. Is this how it is suppose to work?I see now 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a loss. Is this how it is suppose to work?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 06-10-2023 21:10

[MB]

Of course,that never changed. The only thing that changes is the points in classification.

scrum wrote:

I see now 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a loss. Is this how it is suppose to work?

Of course,that never changed.
The only thing that changes is the points in classification.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 06-10-2023 21:15

[MB]

I haven't got yet the extra TC. I should have 14 slots. 🙁 [img]https://i.imgur.com/qdx3Q9R.png[/img]

powdersnow wrote:

The reward will come at the end of this current season, which started today.

I haven't got yet the extra TC.
I should have 14 slots. 🙁

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By scrum - 06-10-2023 22:33

[FRF]

Ok, cool, thanks. This news got me confused: "Points will now be gained in pretty much exactly the same way as you are used to from the individual leagues. Winning a clash will contribute 3 points to the Federation league table, drawing will contribute 1 point and losing will result in 0 points being added. So no more bonus points. We will use points gained in clash matches as tiebreaker"

ruisimoes wrote:

Of course,that never changed.
The only thing that changes is the points in classification.

Ok, cool, thanks. This news got me confused: "Points will now be gained in pretty much exactly the same way as you are used to from the individual leagues. Winning a clash will contribute 3 points to the Federation league table, drawing will contribute 1 point and losing will result in 0 points being added. So no more bonus points. We will use points gained in clash matches as tiebreaker"

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By the_woodies_1706 (GA) - 08-10-2023 12:31

[DISCLL]
President

Quick question. Ist it normal/meant to be that only 1 key member kan redo a lost challenge. If the fitst key member fails the second one doesn’t have a chance to redo the challenge ?Quick question.

Ist it normal/meant to be that only 1 key member kan redo a lost challenge. If the fitst key member fails the second one doesn’t have a chance to redo the challenge ?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 16-10-2023 10:40

[BFTF]

It is enough to be selected for 6 clashes, you don't have to play in them. Yes, in clashes that is how it works! The reward will come after the current Federations League season, which will end on November 13. Yes, this is correct!

masterkike wrote:

@powdersnow do you can explain this. Thanks!

It is enough to be selected for 6 clashes, you don't have to play in them.

scrum wrote:

I see now 4 points for a victory, 2 points for a draw and 1 point for a loss. Is this how it is suppose to work?

Yes, in clashes that is how it works!

ruisimoes wrote:

I haven't got yet the extra TC.
I should have 14 slots. 🙁

The reward will come after the current Federations League season, which will end on November 13.

the_woodies_1706 wrote:

Quick question.

Ist it normal/meant to be that only 1 key member kan redo a lost challenge. If the fitst key member fails the second one doesn’t have a chance to redo the challenge ?

Yes, this is correct!

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ymy2005 - 18-10-2023 09:24

[大汉部落]

We challenged (our home court) where the home team and the visiting team did not correspond to the score order, which was very unaccustomed to. wrong： 湖北经济管理干部学院 挑战 广东红雀代表队 0 - 2 (2 - 4) correct： 广东红雀代表队 挑战 湖北经济管理干部学院 0 - 2 (2 - 4)We challenged (our home court) where the home team and the visiting team did not correspond to the score order, which was very unaccustomed to.
wrong： 湖北经济管理干部学院 挑战 广东红雀代表队 0 - 2 (2 - 4)

correct： 广东红雀代表队 挑战 湖北经济管理干部学院 0 - 2 (2 - 4)

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 18-10-2023 13:25

[BFTF]

We are a little bit unsure what you are referring to here. Could you maybe post an image and point out where the problem occurs, and explain what you would have expected to see?

ymy2005 wrote:

We challenged (our home court) where the home team and the visiting team did not correspond to the score order, which was very unaccustomed to.
wrong： 湖北经济管理干部学院 挑战 广东红雀代表队 0 - 2 (2 - 4)

correct： 广东红雀代表队 挑战 湖北经济管理干部学院 0 - 2 (2 - 4)

We are a little bit unsure what you are referring to here. Could you maybe post an image and point out where the problem occurs, and explain what you would have expected to see?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By wrc76 - 23-10-2023 00:36

[RACING]
President

Hello everyone, now that the beta is over and we are in the middle of the official clash, I would like to propose a more even timetable. It always ends in the european day and the night and early morning in asia and america. That benefits the last to play when it is an even challenge. Therefore I propose to make the timetable system more random and even. Since it is a sporting advantage I think it should be more even. Just that, thank you. Walter Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)Hello everyone, now that the beta is over and we are in the middle of the official clash, I would like to propose a more even timetable. It always ends in the european day and the night and early morning in asia and america.
That benefits the last to play when it is an even challenge.
Therefore I propose to make the timetable system more random and even. Since it is a sporting advantage
I think it should be more even. Just that, thank you.
Walter

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By guldhedstornet - 30-10-2023 08:54

[IFKFED]

hur aktiverar man Looking for new first team members. är det bara federationens president som kan göra detta?hur aktiverar man

Looking for new first team members.

är det bara federationens president som kan göra detta?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By masterkike - 03-11-2023 13:02

[FCMZ]

I think the promotion/relegation system is too beastly. Wouldn't it be ideal to move up 4, 4 in the quiet zone and 4 down? For example when there is the TOP division, 6 will be relegated! It is a beast, maybe the difference for being 6 or 7 is because of the DG.I think the promotion/relegation system is too beastly.

Wouldn't it be ideal to move up 4, 4 in the quiet zone and 4 down?
For example when there is the TOP division, 6 will be relegated! It is a beast, maybe the difference for being 6 or 7 is because of the DG.

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By marcin31 - 03-11-2023 18:47

[PL.]

Hello :) until the new update. What pleasure do we have in playing with a federation that has one member??????!!!!!!Hello :) until the new update. What pleasure do we have in playing with a federation that has one member??????!!!!!!

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By zarnescu - 04-11-2023 01:09

[MESSI❤]
President

Hola a todos ❤️‍🔥Hola a todos ❤️‍🔥

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By bebben - 10-11-2023 09:44

[MZLive]

Agree! Is there any time table anywhere? When does the next season start?

masterkike wrote:

I think the promotion/relegation system is too beastly.

Wouldn't it be ideal to move up 4, 4 in the quiet zone and 4 down?
For example when there is the TOP division, 6 will be relegated! It is a beast, maybe the difference for being 6 or 7 is because of the DG.

Agree!

Is there any time table anywhere? When does the next season start?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By masterkike - 10-11-2023 10:07

[FCMZ]

The next league i think will be start next friday,because in a notice crew tell about the iscriptions close 15-11The next league i think will be start next friday,because in a notice crew tell about the iscriptions close 15-11

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By muskali - 15-11-2023 13:24

[SElite]
President

What do you think of a seasonal federation knockout cup with the 240 federations participating in the Federationsleague?What do you think of a seasonal federation knockout cup with the 240 federations participating in the Federationsleague?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 15-11-2023 16:26

[BFTF]

Yes, that is correct! The first clash of the new season starts on Friday.

masterkike wrote:

The next league i think will be start next friday,because in a notice crew tell about the iscriptions close 15-11

Yes, that is correct! The first clash of the new season starts on Friday.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 15-11-2023 16:30

[BFTF]

I think it is a good idea. We do have ideas of utilizing the first team (and clash) features to create more types of competitions. Nothing decided yet though.

muskali wrote:

What do you think of a seasonal federation knockout cup with the 240 federations participating in the Federationsleague?

I think it is a good idea. We do have ideas of utilizing the first team (and clash) features to create more types of competitions. Nothing decided yet though.

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By pm-paris - 17-11-2023 12:33

[DIFfed]

When will first team members receive the extra trainingcamp place as the award that you described?When will first team members receive the extra trainingcamp place as the award that you described?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 17-11-2023 12:41

[MB]

U already received. 2 days ago, i guess.

pm-paris wrote:

When will first team members receive the extra trainingcamp place as the award that you described?

U already received. 2 days ago, i guess.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ymy2005 - 22-11-2023 03:22

[大汉部落]

It is suggested that the match should be decided by one match. If there are two matches, the final result will be too small for the weak team to win.It is suggested that the match should be decided by one match. If there are two matches, the final result will be too small for the weak team to win.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By scrum - 28-11-2023 09:25

[FRF]

Hey there, please check on this possible bug. On the last federation clash I took part in, I noticed that our opponents jumped from 42 points to 46 points by just one of the team leaders transforming a loss into a victory. As far as I am aware, a victory is worth 4 points and a loss 1 point. Those 42 points already included the 1 loss point, so there should have been added just 3 points, not 4: the difference between a win and a loss. It is like the game took into consideration both the loss of a team member and the win of the team leader who turned that loss into a win. Thank you!Hey there, please check on this possible bug.
On the last federation clash I took part in, I noticed that our opponents jumped from 42 points to 46 points by just one of the team leaders transforming a loss into a victory. As far as I am aware, a victory is worth 4 points and a loss 1 point. Those 42 points already included the 1 loss point, so there should have been added just 3 points, not 4: the difference between a win and a loss. It is like the game took into consideration both the loss of a team member and the win of the team leader who turned that loss into a win.
Thank you!

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 29-11-2023 10:35

[BFTF]

I am not sure what happened in this particular case, but the total sum of points displayed is the correct one. I would assume that either another match was played at the same time, or there was some delay from the last match, so the score hadn't been updated yet.

scrum wrote:

Hey there, please check on this possible bug.
On the last federation clash I took part in, I noticed that our opponents jumped from 42 points to 46 points by just one of the team leaders transforming a loss into a victory. As far as I am aware, a victory is worth 4 points and a loss 1 point. Those 42 points already included the 1 loss point, so there should have been added just 3 points, not 4: the difference between a win and a loss. It is like the game took into consideration both the loss of a team member and the win of the team leader who turned that loss into a win.
Thank you!

I am not sure what happened in this particular case, but the total sum of points displayed is the correct one. I would assume that either another match was played at the same time, or there was some delay from the last match, so the score hadn't been updated yet.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By powdersnow (Crew) - 29-11-2023 10:38

[BFTF]

Thanks for your suggestion. We consider the first match a scouting opportunity, which gives you a chance to analyze the opponent and then apply better tactics for the second match. This is an important part of the strategy aspect of the feature as a whole. So that is why we have chosen two matches, and I think we should keep it that way.

ymy2005 wrote:

It is suggested that the match should be decided by one match. If there are two matches, the final result will be too small for the weak team to win.

Thanks for your suggestion. We consider the first match a scouting opportunity, which gives you a chance to analyze the opponent and then apply better tactics for the second match. This is an important part of the strategy aspect of the feature as a whole. So that is why we have chosen two matches, and I think we should keep it that way.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By pedrowebmaster - 03-12-2023 11:57

[ƘԼƛƝ]
President

How much income do we receive from each challenge we play? Or will the only "benefit" be the increase of 2 vacancies for the CT? If so, it needs to change. Vacancies for the CT have very low utility for most managers. Almost no one uses all the spots the entire season. So, whoever is not currently using the maximum limit will not have any advantage? I am President of an International Federation, and it is overwhelming to have to encourage members to be active in a competition that so far has not indicated what benefit it will bring to the directors from the point of view of weekly income....How much income do we receive from each challenge we play? Or will the only "benefit" be the increase of 2 vacancies for the CT? If so, it needs to change. Vacancies for the CT have very low utility for most managers. Almost no one uses all the spots the entire season. So, whoever is not currently using the maximum limit will not have any advantage? I am President of an International Federation, and it is overwhelming to have to encourage members to be active in a competition that so far has not indicated what benefit it will bring to the directors from the point of view of weekly income....

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 05-12-2023 17:21

[MB]

In 2 challenges i receive 1 458 EUR, so in each challeng u will receive moreless 750 EUR.

pedrowebmaster wrote:

How much income do we receive from each challenge we play?

In 2 challenges i receive 1 458 EUR, so in each challeng u will receive moreless 750 EUR.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By mihairo - 12-12-2023 01:59

[-FO-]

I don't know what you're talking about. I never had enough TC spots. I'm not saying I disagree with you. Federation Clash is still not appealing for the div.2-4 teams. Yes, it could be fun for Top Dovision teams, but anything is fun for Top Division teams. Low division teams don't really quite taste senior matches, because they lose most of them. What I'm saying is that it can be made more attractive. The problem is that I remember Peter/thunderexpress saying in an interview that the game is too big to be transformed into an app. How does the Federation Clash help to make it smaller? I'm still standing here saying we need the MZ App.

pedrowebmaster wrote:

How much income do we receive from each challenge we play? Or will the only "benefit" be the increase of 2 vacancies for the CT? If so, it needs to change. Vacancies for the CT have very low utility for most managers. Almost no one uses all the spots the entire season. So, whoever is not currently using the maximum limit will not have any advantage? I am President of an International Federation, and it is overwhelming to have to encourage members to be active in a competition that so far has not indicated what benefit it will bring to the directors from the point of view of weekly income....

I don't know what you're talking about. I never had enough TC spots.

I'm not saying I disagree with you. Federation Clash is still not appealing for the div.2-4 teams. Yes, it could be fun for Top Dovision teams, but anything is fun for Top Division teams. Low division teams don't really quite taste senior matches, because they lose most of them.

What I'm saying is that it can be made more attractive.

The problem is that I remember Peter/thunderexpress saying in an interview that the game is too big to be transformed into an app.
How does the Federation Clash help to make it smaller?

I'm still standing here saying we need the MZ App.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By pablorey - 12-12-2023 14:51

[✪ FX ✪]

stop the cheaters!!stop the cheaters!!

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By masterkike - 23-12-2023 08:03

[FCMZ]

When does the new season start? In field hockey it will already be first division, have you thought that it would be ideal that only 4 would go down as in world leagues?When does the new season start?

In field hockey it will already be first division, have you thought that it would be ideal that only 4 would go down as in world leagues?

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By pm-paris - 29-12-2023 07:20

[DIFfed]

Could you pls confirm when the new season starts? I assume it is friday Jan 5:th?Could you pls confirm when the new season starts? I assume it is friday Jan 5:th?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By becelhajs - 29-12-2023 08:56

[DC]

Dear Crew, could you include Federations League in Season Break Schedule?Dear Crew, could you include Federations League in Season Break Schedule?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By webregas - 05-01-2024 12:00

[ENG]

Hi - when I try to make a challenge today it just returns an ‘undefined’ error message? First day of new Fed season so potential bug? ThanksHi - when I try to make a challenge today it just returns an ‘undefined’ error message?

First day of new Fed season so potential bug? Thanks

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By webregas - 05-01-2024 18:52

[ENG]

Seems to be fixed if not just me - thanks! Also, one Fed suggestion. It would be quite interesting if a quota of the Fed clash fixtures per round had to be U18, U21, U23 > U30 etc Chatting it through this would potentially make it more competitive / allow smaller or new teams to better contribute particularly in smaller countries a lot of teams are now just focusing on one UX format rather than seniorsSeems to be fixed if not just me - thanks!

Also, one Fed suggestion. It would be quite interesting if a quota of the Fed clash fixtures per round had to be U18, U21, U23 > U30 etc

Chatting it through this would potentially make it more competitive / allow smaller or new teams to better contribute

particularly in smaller countries a lot of teams are now just focusing on one UX format rather than seniors

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By marcin31 - 09-01-2024 10:04

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By marcin31 - 09-01-2024 13:22

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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By darkline - 09-01-2024 17:44

[FLUSA]
President

I'm more interested to know why there's no staff to moderate the forums, oh well..... maybe someone will show up next month.I'm more interested to know why there's no staff to moderate the forums, oh well..... maybe someone will show up next month.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By mihairo - 12-01-2024 06:27

[-FO-]

Adrian, I am amazed you are not MA anymore. I think you were the best MA in the history of MZ and it's a great loss IMHO. I see a lack of FAs and GAs in the game. We see a lot of transfers that should be stopped in my country and nobody does anything about it. I guess it's the same all around the world. I hope that the Crew reads this message because if the MAs don't do anything about it, we'll soon encourage cheating. Best regards and best wishes in everything that you do.Adrian, I am amazed you are not MA anymore. I think you were the best MA in the history of MZ and it's a great loss IMHO.

I see a lack of FAs and GAs in the game. We see a lot of transfers that should be stopped in my country and nobody does anything about it.

I guess it's the same all around the world.

I hope that the Crew reads this message because if the MAs don't do anything about it, we'll soon encourage cheating.

Best regards and best wishes in everything that you do.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By scrum - 12-01-2024 13:27

[FRF]

Hello, just a suggestion. Wouldn't be nice to have leagues of federations for U18/U21? There are plenty of under federations in the game, with managers focused on U18/U21/U23 players, they can't compete with teams that have older players.Hello, just a suggestion. Wouldn't be nice to have leagues of federations for U18/U21? There are plenty of under federations in the game, with managers focused on U18/U21/U23 players, they can't compete with teams that have older players.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 12-01-2024 15:38

[MB]

I agree with having a federation league only for u18 or u21, no more than that. And a team could only be in one league. In other words, a team that is playing in the senior federations league cant participate in the u18 or u21 federations league.

scrum wrote:

Hello, just a suggestion. Wouldn't be nice to have leagues of federations for U18/U21? There are plenty of under federations in the game, with managers focused on U18/U21/U23 players, they can't compete with teams that have older players.

I agree with having a federation league only for u18 or u21, no more than that.

And a team could only be in one league. In other words, a team that is playing in the senior federations league cant participate in the u18 or u21 federations league.

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By pizzirrucho - 12-01-2024 15:59

[S70-79]

I agree with the suggestion. I think there would be a lot of users who would appreciate it if they implemented this.

scrum wrote:

Hello, just a suggestion. Wouldn't be nice to have leagues of federations for U18/U21? There are plenty of under federations in the game, with managers focused on U18/U21/U23 players, they can't compete with teams that have older players.

I agree with the suggestion. I think there would be a lot of users who would appreciate it if they implemented this.

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By pm-paris - 13-01-2024 12:28

[DIFfed]

I think that we have come to a place in time where we need to transfer this thread from the ”beta” and ask questions around how the clashes work to instead to be about the next phase. Currently there are two important topics where it would be great to hear the thoughts from you in crew. 1. There is a big need to do something about the fact that a federation can only have one ”first team” It would be easy to have even more teams joining the clashes if you allowed a federation to have ”second team” and ”third team” This would make it possible for more teams that wants to be able to represent its federation. 2. Develop clashes into a system that is not only senior players. I think most agree that gordolas Defasio has a much more depth to the challenge that better mirrors the strenght of a federation. Why not have a 12 seniors, 2u23 and 2u21 for example in a clash? Another way of course would be to have pure uxx clashes but looking again at defasio I think mixed clashes would be so much more fun. And we are here for the fun right?I think that we have come to a place in time where we need to transfer this thread from the ”beta” and ask questions around how the clashes work to instead to be about the next phase.

Currently there are two important topics where it would be great to hear the thoughts from you in crew.

1. There is a big need to do something about the fact that a federation can only have one ”first team” It would be easy to have even more teams joining the clashes if you allowed a federation to have ”second team” and ”third team” This would make it possible for more teams that wants to be able to represent its federation.

2. Develop clashes into a system that is not only senior players. I think most agree that gordolas Defasio has a much more depth to the challenge that better mirrors the strenght of a federation. Why not have a 12 seniors, 2u23 and 2u21 for example in a clash?

Another way of course would be to have pure uxx clashes but looking again at defasio I think mixed clashes would be so much more fun.

And we are here for the fun right?

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By darkline - 13-01-2024 14:23

[FLUSA]
President

Well had several disagreements with hogweed about his ideas on where support should be heading, I was constantly proposing changes to improve different areas of support that he didn't agree, in the end I guess he got tired as in his own words "I don't share the views of crew" and by crew he means his own views.... a few years later and without dissenting voices we can finally all enjoy hogweed's vision for the game, there are no GAs, there are no FAs, cheating is out of control.... and I think we crossed the point of no return, this will only keep getting worse.

mihairo wrote:

Adrian, I am amazed you are not MA anymore. I think you were the best MA in the history of MZ and it's a great loss IMHO.

I see a lack of FAs and GAs in the game. We see a lot of transfers that should be stopped in my country and nobody does anything about it.

I guess it's the same all around the world.

I hope that the Crew reads this message because if the MAs don't do anything about it, we'll soon encourage cheating.

Best regards and best wishes in everything that you do.

Well had several disagreements with hogweed about his ideas on where support should be heading, I was constantly proposing changes to improve different areas of support that he didn't agree, in the end I guess he got tired as in his own words "I don't share the views of crew" and by crew he means his own views.... a few years later and without dissenting voices we can finally all enjoy hogweed's vision for the game, there are no GAs, there are no FAs, cheating is out of control.... and I think we crossed the point of no return, this will only keep getting worse.

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By mihairo - 14-01-2024 06:00

[-FO-]

I hope things will turn out all right because MZ needs people like you, with great knowledge of the game. Best regards and best wishes, friend! 🫶I hope things will turn out all right because MZ needs people like you, with great knowledge of the game.

Best regards and best wishes, friend!

🫶

Sv: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By blavitt_jens (NC) - 14-01-2024 10:28

[SElite]

A question: is it by design or a programming mistake that the two key members cannot use their extra challenges against the same team? I.e. if a first extra challenge leads to a loss, the other key member cannot challenge the same team to try to turn the game even if they haven’t used their extra challenge and it’s the only game left to turn in the clash.A question: is it by design or a programming mistake that the two key members cannot use their extra challenges against the same team? I.e. if a first extra challenge leads to a loss, the other key member cannot challenge the same team to try to turn the game even if they haven’t used their extra challenge and it’s the only game left to turn in the clash.

Odp: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By becelhajs - 15-01-2024 15:48

[DC]

10 seniors, 2 u23, 2 u21, 2 u18 - good idea

pm-paris wrote:

2. Develop clashes into a system that is not only senior players. I think most agree that gordolas Defasio has a much more depth to the challenge that better mirrors the strenght of a federation. Why not have a 12 seniors, 2u23 and 2u21 for example in a clash?

Another way of course would be to have pure uxx clashes but looking again at defasio I think mixed clashes would be so much more fun.

10 seniors, 2 u23, 2 u21, 2 u18 - good idea

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 15-01-2024 16:34

[MB]

I think the problem here is... Who chooses who will play with the U23s, U21s and U18s? I think we'll have to find a solution to that problem. Because if you leave it in the hands of the members or the presidents of the federations, it's going to be a problem, because many federations aren't very organized (not all of them). Imagine the first 10 members all doing senior challenges, the other 6 will be forced to do Uxx challenges, and what if those 6 don't have competent Uxx teams? We need to find a solution.

becelhajs wrote:

10 seniors, 2 u23, 2 u21, 2 u18 - good idea

I think the problem here is...
Who chooses who will play with the U23s, U21s and U18s?

I think we'll have to find a solution to that problem.

Because if you leave it in the hands of the members or the presidents of the federations, it's going to be a problem, because many federations aren't very organized (not all of them).

Imagine the first 10 members all doing senior challenges, the other 6 will be forced to do Uxx challenges, and what if those 6 don't have competent Uxx teams?

We need to find a solution.

Odp: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By becelhajs - 15-01-2024 19:51

[DC]

players would declare themselves as UXX players when indicating their availability for the first teamplayers would declare themselves as UXX players when indicating their availability for the first team

Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!

By ruisimoes - 15-01-2024 20:50

[MB]

Yup. Thats a nice sugestion.

becelhajs wrote:

players would declare themselves as UXX players when indicating their availability for the first team

Yup. Thats a nice sugestion.

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