Change languageIn the article posted today (here: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110716) we have gone through the new clash feature and provided some dates regarding the beta. Please read through that article if you haven’t already.
We are aware that this might seem like a daunting new feature, so we encourage you to ask questions here if things are unclear. Note that we have intentionally left out information regarding the new federation league table and ranking, to avoid dropping too much information at once. In this thread, we would ideally like to discuss the following things:
- How to set your federation first team up to play clashes
- How to play clashes
- And questions regarding the Beta which will be launched next week (at which point we will also provide more detailed information regarding the beta)
Also be aware that we might not be able to answer questions during evenings and weekends, but we will do our best to answer all your questions as quickly as we can.
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lokura2007 - 13-09-2023 18:54thunderexpress wrote:This is exactly what a Beta is for. Finding issues to make sure that crucial bugs are fixed before we go live. Thank you for helping us testing the new feature! Very much appreciated!
Great, but we don't play like this is just "beta" and we spent tokens on this. Can't you modify results? Well, ok... let's talk about some penalty or punishment for those who take advantage of bugs for the benefit of their federation then. Or u don't care about sportsmanship?
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powdersnow - 15-09-2023 09:11lokura2007 wrote:Great, but we don't play like this is just "beta" and we spent tokens on this. Can't you modify results? Well, ok... let's talk about some penalty or punishment for those who take advantage of bugs for the benefit of their federation then. Or u don't care about sportsmanship?
The results of the beta will be removed and there will be no trace of them, no historical records will be saved, as we have described in the news section and here in this thread.
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marcin31 - 15-09-2023 10:56It does not add points after winning association matches.
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marcin31 - 15-09-2023 11:27We won 7 matches and we only have 20 points, not 28.
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maxwellsmart81 - 15-09-2023 11:41Great with this latest reboot, but now I ask?
next season being in Beta 6 where do I promote?
because my question is because until today we have not lost 1 clash
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thunderexpress - 15-09-2023 11:45marcin31 wrote:It does not add points after winning association matches.
There is currently an issue in clashes, causing results to not be shown correctly. This is only temporary as we are working on a fix. Any matches played are stored correctly, and will be visible as soon as we have released a fix
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thunderexpress - 15-09-2023 12:58marcin31 wrote:We won 7 matches and we only have 20 points, not 28.
This has now been fixed. Please let us know if you are still experiencing issues.
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josegomez - 15-09-2023 14:41what happened to this?
NEWS FROM MZ wrote:NEW: Points structure change
Also after taking aboard feedback from the community, we have decided to rethink how points are gained via clashes. Points will now be gained in pretty much exactly the same way as you are used to from the individual leagues. Winning a clash will contribute 3 points to the Federation league table, drawing will contribute 1 point and losing will result in 0 points being added. So no more bonus points. We will use points gained in clash matches as tiebreaker
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mwickholm - 15-09-2023 19:26josegomez wrote:what happened to this?
I am also wondering the same.
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Odp: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
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marcin31 - 16-09-2023 09:16Again, no points for the match were added. It's 61 and it should be 64.
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the_woodies_1706 - 16-09-2023 12:19Is it possible picking new first team members bugs … i cannot change the 16 person set up. I’m changing them and then i click send and it overwrites the changes
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gordola - 16-09-2023 12:21the_woodies_1706 wrote:Is it possible picking new first team members bugs … i cannot change the 16 person set up. I’m changing them and then i click send and it overwrites the changes
test performing the change of a single user.
When I tried to change more than one user at the same time, the same thing happened to me.
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the_woodies_1706 - 16-09-2023 13:18gordola wrote:test performing the change of a single user.
When I tried to change more than one user at the same time, the same thing happened to me.
Doesn’t work even with a single user … @crew please help
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thunderexpress - 16-09-2023 14:23josegomez wrote:what happened to this?
It has been implemented. The federation who wins the clash will be awarded 3 points in the federations league. Draw will be awarded 1 point and loss 0 points.
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mwickholm - 16-09-2023 14:30thunderexpress wrote:It has been implemented. The federation who wins the clash will be awarded 3 points in the federations league. Draw will be awarded 1 point and loss 0 points.
Oh, I thought it'd also be in matches played within a clash.
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thunderexpress - 16-09-2023 14:30marcin31 wrote:Again, no points for the match were added. It's 61 and it should be 64.
No, 61 is correct. You are 15 teams in your federation and won 15 matches. So that is a total of 60 points. And you lost one on W.O. due to not having 16 first team members.Edited: 16-09-2023 14:31
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ruisimoes - 16-09-2023 15:13mwickholm wrote:Oh, I thought it'd also be in matches played within a clash.
LOL
Thats, not make any sense.
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marcin31 - 16-09-2023 16:24thunderexpress wrote:No, 61 is correct. You are 15 teams in your federation and won 15 matches. So that is a total of 60 points. And you lost one on W.O. due to not having 16 first team members.
I'm very sorry, my mistake.
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masterkike - 16-09-2023 23:31the_woodies_1706 wrote:Doesn’t work even with a single user … @crew please help
Mee too.. i change a user and not change.
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the_woodies_1706 - 17-09-2023 00:51the_woodies_1706 wrote:Doesn’t work even with a single user … @crew please help
Ok it works out if you do it step by step .. first deselect the user into not a first team member… then save and next step select the new member and then save again.
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pm-paris - 17-09-2023 16:03thunderexpress wrote:This has now been fixed. Please let us know if you are still experiencing issues.
Still issues. Points are not correct in our clash. Also the summarytable is wrong. Somehow it looks like matches won from ”keys” are not taken in correct but it doesnt add up at all with new point system. Pls check Allstars Sverige latest fedclash as example.
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the_woodies_1706 - 17-09-2023 21:59We are experiencing the problem above as well.
Check league 4 discord clash team low lands.
We have 10 wins 3 draw 2 losses and the table shows 9-3-3. Definitely a bug !
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josegomez - 18-09-2023 07:51
Score board doesn't show the real score. Won 16 matches. Why only 62 points?
please never dare to put your ***** fingers on SIM, or you will destroy everything.
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pm-paris - 18-09-2023 08:01Showing the examples above the issues is obviously that if you have a key that win a match that was earlier a loss, it still counts as a loss.
I guess this is going to be fixed as it is probsbly related to the bug that you were able to play 2 extra matches as key.
We are still in beta but would be great with some info on progress.
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josegomez - 18-09-2023 08:08If the BETA is about finding bugs, then I don't understand why they only gave us 10 free scouts and then made us pay for them. You should not have enabled the payment option. If you let me pay, you are giving me the right to complain if I pay for something that doesn't work.
It seems to me that everything for you revolves around getting tokens from us, I don't understand why this position of "it's a BETA, so you can't ask for it to work well or for us to quickly fix a bug."
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 08:56maxwellsmart81 wrote:Great with this latest reboot, but now I ask?
next season being in Beta 6 where do I promote?
because my question is because until today we have not lost 1 clash
We will not use the Beta season at all, it will be removed. So there will be no promotions or relegations from this season. Everyone will start in the lowest division (and the number of that division will depend on the amount of active federations) and will have the same opportunity to rise up through the divisions over the seasons to come.
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 08:57josegomez wrote:what happened to this?
The first clash after the reboot is soon about to end (tomorrow). You will see that the new points system has been applied as soon as it has been updated.Edited: 18-09-2023 10:38
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 09:06ruisimoes wrote:LOL
Thats, not make any sense.
The reason for the 1(loss)/2(draw)/4(win) structure is basically to make activity count. By giving out 1 point for a loss (within a clash) it becomes important to have a full first team, even if you need to use newer/inexperienced members to fill out the numbers. This ensures that everyone in the game will be able to find a federation to join. Additionally, it also becomes important for a federation to utilize all their challenges during a clash, as opposed to only playing the matches you know that you will get a result from.
In the division table however, it does not make sense to use that structure, since a federation is always forced to play every clash anyway.
So that is why they differ.
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ruisimoes - 18-09-2023 14:20@powdersnow, i already know that. I was not talking to you (CREW), i was talking to @mwickholm and @josegomez.
I know exactly u do that to promote activity and its fair.
GG
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 16:04ruisimoes wrote:@powdersnow, i already know that. I was not talking to you (CREW), i was talking to @mwickholm and @josegomez.
I know exactly u do that to promote activity and its fair.
GG
Ah, I understand! 🙏
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 16:05the_woodies_1706 wrote:Is it possible picking new first team members bugs … i cannot change the 16 person set up. I’m changing them and then i click send and it overwrites the changes
gordola wrote:test performing the change of a single user.
When I tried to change more than one user at the same time, the same thing happened to me.
This has now been fixed!
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powdersnow - 18-09-2023 16:07marcin31 wrote:Again, no points for the match were added. It's 61 and it should be 64.
the_woodies_1706 wrote:We are experiencing the problem above as well.
Check league 4 discord clash team low lands.
We have 10 wins 3 draw 2 losses and the table shows 9-3-3. Definitely a bug !
pm-paris wrote:Showing the examples above the issues is obviously that if you have a key that win a match that was earlier a loss, it still counts as a loss.
I guess this is going to be fixed as it is probsbly related to the bug that you were able to play 2 extra matches as key.
We are still in beta but would be great with some info on progress.
This should also be fixed now!Edited: 18-09-2023 16:08
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Ant: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
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the_woodies_1706 - 18-09-2023 20:24powdersnow wrote:This should also be fixed now!
Fixed !
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the_woodies_1706 - 18-09-2023 20:25masterkike wrote:Mee too.. i change a user and not change.
The issue is fixed now !
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Ri: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
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anonymous78 - 22-09-2023 15:12Hi everyone..I read the new news about the official start of the competition, I wanted to know if it will remain free or if I will have to buy tickets to participate? Thank you
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ruisimoes - 22-09-2023 16:02I think is free.
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anonymous78 - 22-09-2023 16:36masterkike wrote:Is free
ok thanks
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zagrosky - 22-09-2023 17:23soares73 wrote:Suggestion:
Display a table with the performance ranking of the federation teams, just below the challenge federation leaderboard.
With this we could see the federation teams with the best performance in the challenge, in addition to how many games each team played.
I already have an excel sheet ready for this. :-) :-)
But if it is implemented by the system, even better
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capibaribe - 22-09-2023 19:29The "prize" of an extra visa to sign a foreign player would be much more interesting than a place in the training camp.
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ruisimoes - 22-09-2023 19:33capibaribe wrote:The "prize" of an extra visa to sign a foreign player would be much more interesting than a place in the training camp.
No thank you.
Obviously i desagree with that.
One more slot in TC in good for everyone, an extra visa to sign a foreign player, its not good for everyone.
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masterkike - 23-09-2023 14:05Hi crew, what day is launch the federation clash? And what day start?
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powdersnow - 27-09-2023 09:09masterkike wrote:Hi crew, what day is launch the federation clash? And what day start?
Day 4 of next season is the start date for the first clash, so October 6.
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programayin - 28-09-2023 06:33capibaribe wrote:The "prize" of an extra visa to sign a foreign player would be much more interesting than a place in the training camp.
An extra visa to sign a foreign player
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ruisimoes - 28-09-2023 06:58programayin wrote:An extra visa to sign a foreign player
Additional Training Camp spot
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masterkike - 28-09-2023 12:57Finally, the league system will consist of a pyramid, with one Elite Division, two Division 1 groups, four Division 2 groups, eight Division 3 groups, and so on. At the end of each season, three federations will be promoted and six from each group will be relegated (with the exception of the Elite division, which cannot be promoted, and the lowest division, which cannot be relegated).
Hello, isn't it too much for 6 teams to go down? I think the ideal is for 4 teams to go down and only 2 per division to go up, otherwise half of the league goes down!
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Ant: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
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the_woodies_1706 - 29-09-2023 16:07Hello guys,
Quick question about the extra TC spot.
Do you need to be selected for 6 clashes or do you need to attack in 6 clashes. In the first seasons federations with 8 members or other less than 16 will occur, which means some of the member will not be able to attack in a certain clash.
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masterkike - 30-09-2023 09:45You can play in 6 matches of 11.
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ruisimoes - 03-10-2023 19:09The beta testers will receive an extra TC these days or the rewards or only starts to count this season?
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powdersnow - 04-10-2023 16:08ruisimoes wrote:The beta testers will receive an extra TC these days or the rewards or only starts to count this season?
The reward will come at the end of this current season, which started today.