In the article posted today (here: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110716) we have gone through the new clash feature and provided some dates regarding the beta. Please read through that article if you haven’t already.
We are aware that this might seem like a daunting new feature, so we encourage you to ask questions here if things are unclear. Note that we have intentionally left out information regarding the new federation league table and ranking, to avoid dropping too much information at once. In this thread, we would ideally like to discuss the following things:
- How to set your federation first team up to play clashes
- How to play clashes
- And questions regarding the Beta which will be launched next week (at which point we will also provide more detailed information regarding the beta)
Also be aware that we might not be able to answer questions during evenings and weekends, but we will do our best to answer all your questions as quickly as we can.
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Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 16-06-2023 11:07
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By charef (FA) (NC) - 27-06-2023 22:19
We have just to join a federation to participate, or there's something else to do ?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 28-06-2023 10:13
@fabrigremista: thank you for the suggestions. 😊
charef wrote:We have just to join a federation to participate, or there's something else to do ?
These are the steps involved if you want to play in clashes (taken from the news article):
- Join a federation, if you haven't already. You can join one now for free! (One in each sport.)
- Check the "I am available for the first team" checkbox.
- Then wait to get selected. You will receive a notification when this happens, and your name will also appear among the first team members list on the federations front page.
Once you have done this, you are ready to start playing clashes next season, provided that the federation you have joined have at least 8 first team members so it qualifies for the federation league.
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By srzeyamlon - 28-06-2023 15:27
If I played on federation's match, I received any money for it?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By elmencho - 28-06-2023 15:29
I signed up for the first team of the federation and I get a default tactic, the question is, do I select any tactic? I didn't understand that part.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 28-06-2023 15:48
srzeyamlon wrote:If I played on federation's match, I received any money for it?
Home matches will get you a small income. We have deliberately made this small because we don't want managers to feel like they have to play in clashes to be competitive.
Currently we have not planned any rewards in the Federations League, but most likely we will add some type of rewards at some point. Maybe some perk that the federation can use in order to be more competitive.
elmencho wrote:I signed up for the first team of the federation and I get a default tactic, the question is, do I select any tactic? I didn't understand that part.
Yes, you will always chose one of your tactics, which will be used when the opponent federation member challenge you.
To maybe understand this a little bit better, think of scout matches. When you initiate a scout match against any other user on ManagerZone, you will actually face the exact team that they used in their latest league match. In clashes, it works in a similar way, but instead you will face the tactic that your opponent have chosen for the upcoming clash.
And when others challenge you to a match within a clash, they will face the tactic that you have chosen to use in that clash. When the deadline for a clash has passed, this tactic can no longer be changed.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By elenagilbert - 29-06-2023 03:40
A new feature has been added and there is now a bug where when a user logs into the game using their mobile phone and checks the box to become a member of Tier 1 on their mobile phone, the interface shows that the box has been confirmed, but after refreshing the page, the box is automatically unchecked. All league administrators cannot see the new members. It only works properly when operating on a computer.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 29-06-2023 09:37
elenagilbert wrote:A new feature has been added and there is now a bug where when a user logs into the game using their mobile phone and checks the box to become a member of Tier 1 on their mobile phone, the interface shows that the box has been confirmed, but after refreshing the page, the box is automatically unchecked. All league administrators cannot see the new members. It only works properly when operating on a computer.
We have tried but are not able to recreate your problem. Do you know if this is happening to someone else or is this only happening to you? It is possible that, if you have a slow internet connection, the system doesn't have time to record the change. Can you try and wait 1 minute after you have checked the box to see if it makes any difference? Just so we can rule that out.
Can you also tell me which browser you are using on your phone?
Thank you!Edited: 29-06-2023 09:44
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By elenagilbert - 29-06-2023 12:38
I am a Chinese player, many of our friends in China have this bug, but at the moment we use computer login to solve this bug, but at the moment using mobile phone login still can not solve this bug, we use mobile phone browser: KIWI, UC, FIREFOX
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 30-06-2023 08:51
elenagilbert wrote:I am a Chinese player, many of our friends in China have this bug, but at the moment we use computer login to solve this bug, but at the moment using mobile phone login still can not solve this bug, we use mobile phone browser: KIWI, UC, FIREFOX
Ok, thanks for the additional information. We tried it here with Firefox and kiwi and it worked for us (were not able to download UC). We will keep searching for an explanation for this issue.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 30-06-2023 10:06
Wanted to let you all know, we have assembled all terminology around the new federation features in a news article which you can find here:
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110927
It is a bit wordy and repetitive, but that is because we've tried to make it as clear as possible to avoid misunderstandings. If you have concerns or questions about the new features, you might find the answers there.
It will show up as featured article on clubhouse home as well, at some point next week.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By gordola (GA) - 30-06-2023 11:08
powdersnow wrote:Wanted to let you all know, we have assembled all terminology around the new federation features in a news article which you can find here:
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=110927
It is a bit wordy and repetitive, but that is because we've tried to make it as clear as possible to avoid misunderstandings. If you have concerns or questions about the new features, you might find the answers there.
It will show up as featured article on clubhouse home as well, at some point next week.
Perfect 👏
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By charef (FA) (NC) - 30-06-2023 20:49
Is it better to choose a small federation to have a bigger chance to be nominated as a first team member ?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 03-07-2023 10:49
charef wrote:Is it better to choose a small federation to have a bigger chance to be nominated as a first team member ?
If the first team is full, your chances might not be so high, but if there are empty spots, they are probably looking for first team members. I think what you need to do is ask the people in charge of the federation or ask in the message board (provided that you are already in the federation as a normal member). Federations is, and has always been, a team effort, so some level of communication between members will probably be needed.
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By drabzon_54 - 03-07-2023 14:24
Trabzonspor Fedration
The doors of our federation are open to everyone. We are waiting.
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=federations#fid=241
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 04-07-2023 09:39
FYI: You will notice it is possible to play scout matches against opponents during a clash. When playing a clash scout match, you will play against the away tactic that the user has prepared, and you can play as many clash scout matches as you want (against any opponent). Just wanted to let you all know we have added 10 free clash scout credits for everyone, so you can test this feature. We probably wont be adding more of these free credits (although you will probably be able to gain them as rewards in the future), so use them wisely. 😊 It will be possible to play more scout matches once you run out of credits, but it will cost 2 PT as scout matches usually do.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By gordola (GA) - 04-07-2023 10:54
Hello one question. Bot federations such as the Mz Padding Federation were created for testing purposes? cheers0
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 04-07-2023 11:07
Mz Padding Federation is to fill up a divison (like the bot teams for world league for instance). This is to make full divisions for all divisions.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By gordola (GA) - 04-07-2023 11:09
thunderexpress wrote:Mz Padding Federation is to fill up a divison (like the bot teams for world league for instance). This is to make full divisions for all divisions.
Perfect 👏
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By gordola (GA) - 04-07-2023 11:13
From now on I can select the teams for date 2, right?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 04-07-2023 11:28
gordola wrote:From now on I can select the teams for date 2, right?
Yes, that is correct. The changes you make now will not affect the current clash. Only the next clash
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By fabrigremista - 04-07-2023 20:41
A federation that didn't play in round 1, and closing the 16 now... Will it be able to play in round 2 in this beta phase?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By gordola (GA) - 05-07-2023 00:43
Good evening
Can you find an alternative to be able to see more quickly which users have played their matches and which have not?
For example I can think of something like this
It would be a help to be able to visualize easily who played
Thanks
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By ethurington (MA) - 05-07-2023 08:35
It's a pity that other feds match stats(like fixtures, results and league tables) cannot be seen.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 05-07-2023 10:01
fabrigremista wrote:A federation that didn't play in round 1, and closing the 16 now... Will it be able to play in round 2 in this beta phase?
No, but you will be able to join the league at some point in August. We will do a reboot of the league and add any new federations. If you want to try playing clashes I suggest to join the first team of any federation that is currently in the league, there are plenty with open first team spots.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By powdersnow (Crew) - 05-07-2023 10:11
gordola wrote:Good evening
Can you find an alternative to be able to see more quickly which users have played their matches and which have not?
Yeah I think this is a really good suggestion actually. We will consider it!
ethurington wrote:It's a pity that other feds match stats(like fixtures, results and league tables) cannot be seen.
This might not be a priority for now, but to me it seems like a logical step. As a user looking for a federation to join, that would be pretty handy. And also when you are scouting a federation for an upcoming clash, you may want to quickly get to the their previous clashes to check out how they usually play. In the future there will be even more of a need for it, since I am expecting that we will add other types of contests (maybe tournaments) where you will face other federations through clashes. So we will need a page where we assemble all the clashes a federation has played (and will play) similar to fixtures and results.
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By muskali - 07-07-2023 10:08
Resultaten i spelschemat är felaktiga och vissa är omvända. T.ex vann Urodzeni Pod Szczęśliwą Gwiazdą med 60-0 och inte tvärtom
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By cdaguila (RA) (NC) - 07-07-2023 12:30
Hola! Queria entender bien como son los partidos perdidos por forfeit, este este nuevo clash, nuestra federacion tiene 13 equipos y la rival tiene 16. Entiendo deberiamos tener 6 partidos perdidos por forfeit (2 por cada equipo faltante). Pero tenemos solo 3 partidos perdidos. como funciona esto?
Gracias
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By drafter - 07-07-2023 15:14
Ciao! Sarebbe carino aggiungere anche la classifica marcatori (TopScorer) al Campionato delle Federazioni!
Sportivi saluti
Drafter
LHsG
(Membro Federazione Alpen Hockey Bund)
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By fabrigremista - 07-07-2023 16:59
This challenge is not practical.. things are very manual and there is a gap between federations.
Small countries in the amount of teams, manages to gather the top teams easily.
This challenge can be senior but it has to have leveling in the divisions.
An example federation in Spain that had 140 teams in the last National Cup, all div1 or top league teams facing federations from countries that have 700 active teams. Consequently big countries will not be able to gather the best teams in one/two federations and it will be more balanced to attack but against small federations there is nothing to do.What am I going to do if a small federation of small countries only has a div1 or top league team and the big federations even have a div5 team?
The senior division has to be limited by divisional categories. even because everyone knows who is in div1 in a small country has more revenue than who is in div3/4 of large countries.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By fabrigremista - 07-07-2023 17:02
This has to be reviewed... This challenge needs to be more automated, play every day, have team level equalization... All teams face each other and not choose an opponent.
How am I going to choose an opponent if I have div3/4 teams or that play sub category against small federation of small parents in MZ and only div1?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By botislory - 07-07-2023 17:29
Howdy. I'm a key member, but I can't challenge the opponents to return the result. The other key member of my federation can do this. I can not. can someone check?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By botislory - 07-07-2023 17:46
I solved the problem. I had to challenge someone first.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By darkline - 07-07-2023 21:28
fabrigremista wrote:The senior division has to be limited by divisional categories. even because everyone knows who is in div1 in a small country has more revenue than who is in div3/4 of large countries.
Maybe I missunderstood something, are you complaining about facing D1 or top teams from small Countries? I'm playing with a U17 team (u18 this season) that I didn't bother to even train properly on D2 in USA and ended up playing the playoffs for promotion to D1... Divison is really irrelevant, a D3/D4 from Brazil is going to be as strongh as a D1 or even Top League from other Countries.
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By derma85 - 07-07-2023 21:37
I have a suggestion: I think that FEDERATION MESSAGE BOARD should be hidden because now everyone can read others Federation Message Boards
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Ri: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By derma85 - 07-07-2023 21:42
gordola wrote:Good evening
Can you find an alternative to be able to see more quickly which users have played their matches and which have not?
For example I can think of something like this
It would be a help to be able to visualize easily who played
Thanks
Totally agree 👍
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By ruisimoes - 07-07-2023 21:54
Hey, I have a suggestion.
It could be shown the conquered points by users throughout the season.
Ex: User_1 - 16 points, User_2 - 60 points, etc.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By grostony - 07-07-2023 22:45
derma85 wrote:I have a suggestion: I think that FEDERATION MESSAGE BOARD should be hidden because now everyone can read others Federation Message Boards
there should be, an integrated forum party, to the clash in court. that there are the "current clash", "previous clash" "ranking" "calendar" and "private forum" tabs
that we can discuss just with the members of our team
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By fabrigremista - 08-07-2023 06:30
darkline wrote:Maybe I missunderstood something, are you complaining about facing D1 or top teams from small Countries? I'm playing with a U17 team (u18 this season) that I didn't bother to even train properly on D2 in USA and ended up playing the playoffs for promotion to D1... Divison is really irrelevant, a D3/D4 from Brazil is going to be as strongh as a D1 or even Top League from other Countries.
Look at Div1 from Spain and compare the values and see if they come close to div3/4 teams from Brazil.Spain didn't even have 200 users in the last National Cup.
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By muskali - 08-07-2023 10:56
How about show teamnames as standard instead of managers? I know there is a switch but just change their spots
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By ethurington (MA) - 09-07-2023 14:54
powdersnow wrote:Yeah I think this is a really good suggestion actually. We will consider it!
This might not be a priority for now, but to me it seems like a logical step. As a user looking for a federation to join, that would be pretty handy. And also when you are scouting a federation for an upcoming clash, you may want to quickly get to the their previous clashes to check out how they usually play. In the future there will be even more of a need for it, since I am expecting that we will add other types of contests (maybe tournaments) where you will face other federations through clashes. So we will need a page where we assemble all the clashes a federation has played (and will play) similar to fixtures and results.
It seems that though I'm in first team, I can't contribute any points if I don't click to challenge opponents? (in some clashes, both two sides have 16 teams, but matches they played repectively aren't always 16.)
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By truchamel - 11-07-2023 18:28
Hola pregunta , nuestra federación entro tarde ,el 4/7 eras 8 pero ya había pasado la fecha ahora somos 12 y teóricamente estábamos habilitado para jugar hoy 11/7 y no salió en el crash actual, por qué?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By webregas - 11-07-2023 19:56
We’re on our third clash now and this feature has a lot of potential.
One suggestion;
on the challenge page it would be great if there was more intel on the teams. Eg. Country, league, league position and maybe the last 5 games form (format you see on the club presentation page).
This would be really handy for planning matchups.
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Beantwortet: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions her
By sid1 - 11-07-2023 21:12
One question: We have now formed a new federation and it already has 8 team members and will quickly grow to 16. When will the association be admitted to the league? Still in the beta season?
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 11-07-2023 22:38
muskali wrote:Resultaten i spelschemat är felaktiga och vissa är omvända. T.ex vann Urodzeni Pod Szczęśliwą Gwiazdą med 60-0 och inte tvärtom
There seems to be some cache issues that swaps the results in some cases but that is only a visual bug. The correct result is always recorded in the DB.
webregas wrote:We’re on our third clash now and this feature has a lot of potential.
One suggestion;
on the challenge page it would be great if there was more intel on the teams. Eg. Country, league, league position and maybe the last 5 games form (format you see on the club presentation page).
This would be really handy for planning matchups.
Good suggestions
sid1 wrote:One question: We have now formed a new federation and it already has 8 team members and will quickly grow to 16. When will the association be admitted to the league? Still in the beta season?
You can play with your 16 teams the next matchup once they have joined the federaion. As long as you have the 16 teams in the "first team" before the deadline they will be part of the next clash.
drafter wrote:Ciao! Sarebbe carino aggiungere anche la classifica marcatori (TopScorer) al Campionato delle Federazioni!
Sportivi saluti
Drafter
LHsG
(Membro Federazione Alpen Hockey Bund)
Good idea!
cdaguila wrote:Hola! Queria entender bien como son los partidos perdidos por forfeit, este este nuevo clash, nuestra federacion tiene 13 equipos y la rival tiene 16. Entiendo deberiamos tener 6 partidos perdidos por forfeit (2 por cada equipo faltante). Pero tenemos solo 3 partidos perdidos. como funciona esto?
Gracias
It is correct that you should only lose 3 games on w.o. if you were 13 teams and they 16. Because it is not double headers. You only meet a team ones (even though you can challenge the team twice if you want)Edited: 11-07-2023 22:42
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 11-07-2023 22:48
sid1 wrote:One question: We have now formed a new federation and it already has 8 team members and will quickly grow to 16. When will the association be admitted to the league? Still in the beta season?
Maybe I misunderstood this question. If your federation is not in the fedearations league playing clashes already, it will not be added to the league. We will however have reset of the beta league sometime in the mid-late August. So if you have at least 8 fiirst team memebers by then, you will be added to the league.
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Beantwortet: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions her
By sid1 - 11-07-2023 23:15
thunderexpress wrote:Maybe I misunderstood this question. If your federation is not in the fedearations league playing clashes already, it will not be added to the league. We will however have reset of the beta league sometime in the mid-late August. So if you have at least 8 fiirst team memebers by then, you will be added to the league.
ok it is not possible in the beta season. I understood and thx for the answer.
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By hooper14 - 12-07-2023 10:12
Thank you Crew, Fed clashes has brought a lot more activity to the MZ England fed. We are all communicating as we use to do back in the early 2000's. it is great to see
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By noild (RA) - 12-07-2023 11:22
(Hockey - federation n°65)
As a key team i played against two team for the clash.
I won the first one, i made a draw against the seconde team.
I don't know why i can't use my seconde challenge against the seconde team ?
The button "challenge" is only available against the first team but as i was a lucky win i don't want to erase that victory...
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Re: Federation clashes and Beta: ask your questions here!
By thunderexpress (Crew) - 12-07-2023 15:15
noild wrote:(Hockey - federation n°65)
As a key team i played against two team for the clash.
I won the first one, i made a draw against the seconde team.
I don't know why i can't use my seconde challenge against the seconde team ?
The button "challenge" is only available against the first team but as i was a lucky win i don't want to erase that victory...
As a key member you are allowed one additional challenge against any opponent. That means that if you challenge team 1 than that will be your "main challenge" and you will be able to challenge that team one additional time if you want. However, if you challenge team 1 first and then challenge team 2, you will not be able to challenge team 2 an additonal time, since you cahllenged team 1 first.
A good idea might be to wait until everyone has played their matches before you use your key memeber challenge, since you can override any challenge with those challenges. Meaning that if one of your team mates loses a challenge against an opponent, you will be able to challenge that opponent if you are a key member.
So tactical decisions can prove very important.
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