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Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the level hi

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 21-01-2024 19:03

[POLSKA]

I play this game since 2009. I remember different times, SIMs, players, level of competetivenes etc... I question myself, I'm a getting worse in the game? or everyone else got much better. How come 6-8 years ago playing using worse teams and less money spend.. I was albe to win cups, FLs, national cups, league titles etc. Now and especially with the previous squad (when I spent arround 45 mln + having 3 great youths, ) i struggled a lot with the teams who buy players for 300k etc. Back in the day when there was a lot of active users in Ireland and our neighbours Scotland, N.Ireland, Wales, Ireland play in one National Celtic Cup... it was easier to achieve better results in these competitions. Same in our Polish clans that we have etc. I mean these days I can lose to any one, but also beat any one. Plenty of times with my current team which is worse than my last one I won over much stronger teams from top leagues... but I'm also able to lose to way worse teams than me. Funny thing you go to see your opponnets players and you see transfers for 10k haha or 100-300k and this kind of players can beat you now... I don't know what's going on anymore and I play this game 15 years... I'm not confident against anyone now, you can lose to any team... Are we heading towards complete lottery now and flattening of the MZ level? Did we change and weaker teams got better? is it too easy to buy players now and old 31-33 players with even 7/6 motor skills can beat you? I dont have a clue which skills are important now. Since I remember my priority was speed/stamina and inteligence. 8/9 in speed/stamina or 9/8 was always minimum same with 8-9 inteligence, now I don;t know which skill has priority... My winger who was bought for 7mln with 10 inteligence, 9 ball controll, 9speed plays sometimes like he has two left legs... I don;t know how to play anymore and what's important in this game now... Same with the tactics, against better teams when I play wing I'm able to beat top teams, but weaker teams from div3 etc for example when they play the wide deffence thats enough many times to stop my wing completely and beat me, even me having better team... Yesterday I risked it a bit I used short tactic against the Polish no.1 teams who leads Polish ekstraklasa, despite I don't have players to play short passing as wing is my tactic now, I only lost 1-2, with equal shots on target, and I was even winning 1-0 for a long period of time, my rival played wing... Games, results, tactics, don't make any sense for me any more, I feel lost in this game...:D why is it so random now? where is the times gone when if you chose better tactics than you rival you almost always won, outsmarting your opponent was leading to victory, now wing can lose to short narrow defence used by your rival when you play wing...and so on.. sorry for this long post, I just don't know what going on any more, and maybe some of you have some answers for that matter to help me :DI play this game since 2009. I remember different times, SIMs, players, level of competetivenes etc...

I question myself, I'm a getting worse in the game? or everyone else got much better. How come 6-8 years ago playing using worse teams and less money spend.. I was albe to win cups, FLs, national cups, league titles etc.

Now and especially with the previous squad (when I spent arround 45 mln + having 3 great youths, ) i struggled a lot with the teams who buy players for 300k etc.

Back in the day when there was a lot of active users in Ireland and our neighbours Scotland, N.Ireland, Wales, Ireland play in one National Celtic Cup... it was easier to achieve better results in these competitions. Same in our Polish clans that we have etc.

I mean these days I can lose to any one, but also beat any one. Plenty of times with my current team which is worse than my last one I won over much stronger teams from top leagues...

but I'm also able to lose to way worse teams than me. Funny thing you go to see your opponnets players and you see transfers for 10k haha or 100-300k and this kind of players can beat you now...

I don't know what's going on anymore and I play this game 15 years... I'm not confident against anyone now, you can lose to any team...

Are we heading towards complete lottery now and flattening of the MZ level? Did we change and weaker teams got better? is it too easy to buy players now and old 31-33 players with even 7/6 motor skills can beat you?

I dont have a clue which skills are important now. Since I remember my priority was speed/stamina and inteligence. 8/9 in speed/stamina or 9/8 was always minimum same with 8-9 inteligence, now I don;t know which skill has priority...

My winger who was bought for 7mln with 10 inteligence, 9 ball controll, 9speed plays sometimes like he has two left legs...

I don;t know how to play anymore and what's important in this game now...

Same with the tactics, against better teams when I play wing I'm able to beat top teams, but weaker teams from div3 etc for example when they play the wide deffence thats enough many times to stop my wing completely and beat me, even me having better team...

Yesterday I risked it a bit I used short tactic against the Polish no.1 teams who leads Polish ekstraklasa, despite I don't have players to play short passing as wing is my tactic now, I only lost 1-2, with equal shots on target, and I was even winning 1-0 for a long period of time, my rival played wing... Games, results, tactics, don't make any sense for me any more, I feel lost in this game...:D

why is it so random now? where is the times gone when if you chose better tactics than you rival you almost always won, outsmarting your opponent was leading to victory, now wing can lose to short narrow defence used by your rival when you play wing...and so on..

sorry for this long post, I just don't know what going on any more, and maybe some of you have some answers for that matter to help me :D

 

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Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By darkline - 21-01-2024 20:03

[FLUSA]
President

Is not that hard to explain, since "tinder training" & training chips were implemented in the game, most teams have the same quality of players, there is not a great leap in quality between an average joe and a top players, to that you can add that the SIM was always meant to shorten the gap between poor teams and better ones and well.... easy to see were all that leads to.

lukaszsz182 wrote:

why is it so random now? where is the times gone when if you chose better tactics than you rival you almost always won, outsmarting your opponent was leading to victory, now wing can lose to short narrow defence used by your rival when you play wing...and so on..

Is not that hard to explain, since "tinder training" & training chips were implemented in the game, most teams have the same quality of players, there is not a great leap in quality between an average joe and a top players, to that you can add that the SIM was always meant to shorten the gap between poor teams and better ones and well.... easy to see were all that leads to.

Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 21-01-2024 20:58

[POLSKA]

I could understand if lets say team "A" has better players than team "B" but team "B" choose much better tactic and wins... makes sense as tactic can overcome weakness in players skills... BUT I will never understand when team A is better than team B, chose better tactic than team B and still lose or draw... this I won't accept. Revolution of expanding 1-10 skill range is needed, but then... all weaker managers who has no patience etc if they start losing everything again they will leave the game.. Crew is probably thinking of this.I could understand if lets say team "A" has better players than team "B" but team "B" choose much better tactic and wins... makes sense as tactic can overcome weakness in players skills...

BUT I will never understand when team A is better than team B, chose better tactic than team B and still lose or draw... this I won't accept.

Revolution of expanding 1-10 skill range is needed, but then... all weaker managers who has no patience etc if they start losing everything again they will leave the game.. Crew is probably thinking of this.

Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By darkline - 21-01-2024 21:15

[FLUSA]
President

That's because team B is now closer than team A and has a higher chance of getting a good result even if their tactics are crap. Let's give teams a "score" so the best team is 100 and worst is 0, in the past a poor team would be 20, an average team 50, a good team 70 and a top team 100, ok? So MZ wants to give weaker manager a chance to beat a better team between +/-20 , so a team that's 50 has a decent chance to beat a team that's 70 just because the game wants to encourage weaker teams... it sucks but that's pretty much how the game has always been. Now fast forward to now, a poor team is 60, average team is 80, good team 90, top team 100... which is pretty much how it is, what you think will happen in this scenario? That in many game, having the better team or the better tactics will be irrelevant. One solution to this is to eliminate the handicap but will it ever happen? Doubt it, crew is too afraid to make any changes and this might upset piss poor managers that don't have a clue when they start losing the games they should lose, on the other side, many good and dedicated managers are leaving the game because they get frustrated by all this but crew don't see it...

lukaszsz182 wrote:

I could understand if lets say team "A" has better players than team "B" but team "B" choose much better tactic and wins... makes sense as tactic can overcome weakness in players skills...

BUT I will never understand when team A is better than team B, chose better tactic than team B and still lose or draw... this I won't accept.

That's because team B is now closer than team A and has a higher chance of getting a good result even if their tactics are crap.

Let's give teams a "score" so the best team is 100 and worst is 0, in the past a poor team would be 20, an average team 50, a good team 70 and a top team 100, ok? So MZ wants to give weaker manager a chance to beat a better team between +/-20 , so a team that's 50 has a decent chance to beat a team that's 70 just because the game wants to encourage weaker teams... it sucks but that's pretty much how the game has always been.

Now fast forward to now, a poor team is 60, average team is 80, good team 90, top team 100... which is pretty much how it is, what you think will happen in this scenario? That in many game, having the better team or the better tactics will be irrelevant.

One solution to this is to eliminate the handicap but will it ever happen? Doubt it, crew is too afraid to make any changes and this might upset piss poor managers that don't have a clue when they start losing the games they should lose, on the other side, many good and dedicated managers are leaving the game because they get frustrated by all this but crew don't see it...

Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 22-01-2024 00:14

[POLSKA]

Agree 100%. I play this game long. Paid loads of money in these 15 years. Wish to see something done to change this. Not new things like events etc but something done to gameplay so it can challenge us again. Because from what i see this game is just to simple now. I check some results many times its funny when I go to Poland and see ekstraklasa losing to div3 or in Argentina when leader of top league can lose to div4...Agree 100%. I play this game long. Paid loads of money in these 15 years. Wish to see something done to change this. Not new things like events etc but something done to gameplay so it can challenge us again. Because from what i see this game is just to simple now. I check some results many times its funny when I go to Poland and see ekstraklasa losing to div3 or in Argentina when leader of top league can lose to div4...

Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By evosa - 22-01-2024 10:01

[LEGEND]

I dont know about reliability of this company but according to Nordic Market Data AB Power Challenge AB has been generating loss for fiscal years 2021(-49k) and 2020(-166k). It did make profit for 2022 but only 1k.Currencies are in EUROS.It would explain all the events to earn chips etc. to encourage costumers to buy more tokens here. Although I have been feeling for a quite long time now that MZ is kinda of a sinking boat. All I can do is recommend enjoying it while it lasts! And to expect new sim when company generates a loss is unrealistic.I dont know about reliability of this company but according to Nordic Market Data AB Power Challenge AB has been generating loss for fiscal years 2021(-49k) and 2020(-166k). It did make profit for 2022 but only 1k.Currencies are in EUROS.It would explain all the events to earn chips etc. to encourage costumers to buy more tokens here. Although I have been feeling for a quite long time now that MZ is kinda of a sinking boat. All I can do is recommend enjoying it while it lasts!

And to expect new sim when company generates a loss is unrealistic.

Re: Is the game heading towards absolute lottery? or is the leve

By darkline - 22-01-2024 11:26

[FLUSA]
President

Wouldn't read too much into that, a loss for the company doesn't necesary means a loss for the owners, the company is it's own entity and the directors and shareholders are separate, there are many ways to reduce tax liability and one of them is generate a loss by taking out more money than you earn, that could be for example by giving out a director's loan, "investing", paying out dividends or loans , etc. etc. etc.... I don't think the company could make a real loss because they barely have any expenses, all they have to pay is for webhosting and then they have a skeleton crew, if they were in such dire circumnstances they would get rid of crew members that don't really serve any purpose like hogweed or mikelony and I mean exactly what I said, hogweed is a guy the game would be better off without as all he touches he ruins, he's the sole responsible of the current state of the support structure he implemented and that has been dissastrous for the game, no GAs, no support, no nothing... and mikelony is a nice guy but that's all there is to him, he serves absolutely no purpose and no one knows what his function in the game is. Anyway, don't want to derail the discussion but point is, I don't think powerchallenge is making a real loss or they would start cutting corners.

evosa wrote:

I dont know about reliability of this company but according to Nordic Market Data AB Power Challenge AB has been generating loss for fiscal years 2021(-49k) and 2020(-166k). It did make profit for 2022 but only 1k.Currencies are in EUROS.

Wouldn't read too much into that, a loss for the company doesn't necesary means a loss for the owners, the company is it's own entity and the directors and shareholders are separate, there are many ways to reduce tax liability and one of them is generate a loss by taking out more money than you earn, that could be for example by giving out a director's loan, "investing", paying out dividends or loans , etc. etc. etc....

I don't think the company could make a real loss because they barely have any expenses, all they have to pay is for webhosting and then they have a skeleton crew, if they were in such dire circumnstances they would get rid of crew members that don't really serve any purpose like hogweed or mikelony and I mean exactly what I said, hogweed is a guy the game would be better off without as all he touches he ruins, he's the sole responsible of the current state of the support structure he implemented and that has been dissastrous for the game, no GAs, no support, no nothing... and mikelony is a nice guy but that's all there is to him, he serves absolutely no purpose and no one knows what his function in the game is.

Anyway, don't want to derail the discussion but point is, I don't think powerchallenge is making a real loss or they would start cutting corners.

 

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